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4ms

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Hello,

A couple of quick questions / suggestions.

is it possible to have optional mask variables - i.e.
/path-to-audio/%Artist%/[%Year] %Album%[.%CD#]/%02Track% - %Title%.%Ext%

Is it possible to save different preferences?

For instance one regular "albums" setting that names and saves
default folder rename mask %A%Z%B ('artist / album')
and
default filename %A-%B-%D-%C ('artist - album - trackno - title')

And another for "classical" and soundtracks, sound effects, compilations, discographies, tv themes, Christmas, children, audio books, speeches, etc...

Or perhaps guidelines similar to the mb styleguides mitigate.
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ClassicalStyleGuide

Now that I've found jaikoz, I'd like to finally get my audio in order.

I'd prefer a single mask setting that could cover all bases, but haven't found it yet. Suggestions welcome.

thanks,
joseph
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I assume [] means optional, what happens if not declared as optional but doesnt exist

Definently could do with extending, soltions welcome.

thanks Paul (Administrator)
4ms

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Paul,

Yes, I intended [] to indicate optional variable field masks that would not be used if they were empty.

Foremost, i would like to find a schema for naming folders and files that will work well for all.

And I welcome suggestions.
An better example of a path-folder-filename 'common schema' may be

/path-to-audio/%Artist%/[%Year% -]%Album%[.%CD#%]/[%Track##% - ]%Title%.%Ext%

I don't believe the [] syntax is interpreted as optional currently and without that you end up with the blank field - but with the extra dash or period.

The bigger challenge may not be 'classical', per se, but more generally the compilations - and how to name them consistently.

However, if a 'common schema' is not possible, then I'd like to be able to save the jaikoz preferences for the different schemas. I've suggested possible categories of audio that may need different saved preferences.

thanks,
joseph
(we're now up to 1066 of 1500 files saved btw...)
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4ms wrote:
The bigger challenge may not be 'classical', per se, but more generally the compilations - and how to name them consistently. 

For me, dBpoweramp and Jaikoz set the gold standard for ripping/tagging. I think I am not alone. So perhaps dBpa offers a basic model for at least conditionally naming compilations -- perhaps one that can be extended more generally to other tags such as genre:

dBpoweramp conditional paths/names
 Filename Naming.htm [Disk] Download
 Description (page from local dBpa help files)
 Filesize 8 Kbytes
 Downloaded:  699 time(s)


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GG,

thank you. It looks like dBpa does ripping, format conversion, AMG meta retrieval, and conditional paths/names I was looking for.

And then Jaikoz lets us lookup songs by acoustic id (and metadata). I agree it is the best.

How do you use these programs together?
Do you use Jaikoz to get metadata by acoustic id and then use dBpa to organize with conditional names?

much thanks,
joseph

ps I also found
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ let's you export tags to html, rtf, csv, xml, etc.
DBpa also allows exports with programming - http://www.dbpoweramp.com/developer-scripting-dmc.htm


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4ms wrote:
How do you use these programs together?
Do you use Jaikoz to get metadata by acoustic id and then use dBpa to organize with conditional names? 

4ms,
Myself, I'm more interested in Jaikoz for the complete access to tags, rather than metadata retrieval. I simply rip with dBpoweramp (creating my correct folder structure) & then clean up or complete tag info using Jaikoz or Helium Music Manager.

For me these 3 apps together allow total organization & enjoyment of my music collection. I store, play, sync my player completely from HMM. Nothing but these 3 perfect (but constantly improving) apps is necessary: dBpa (ripping), Jaikoz (tagging), HMM (manage, play, sync).

GG
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OK, i come from a linux environment. I used EasyTAG for my tagging needs, and i would agree that it´s a very limited program when compared to Jaikoz. However it has the awaited jaikoz option for saving naming schemes when it comes to filling in tags from the filename. I don't care what the naming scheme is, but i would suggest (instead of Jaiko's current one)
%artist
%albumartist
%title
%track
%composer
etc. instead of A, B, C. Whichever one Paul decides with, i would really like to have a dropdown list of schemes for filling in the tags, maybe in the submenu of the "Correct tags from filename". TriTag is an OSX program which is unmaintained right now, but it does this job very quickly.
Just my thoughts, thanks for your attention.
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Im looking at this now, already changed %A to %album% ectera and allow you to specify a mask. But having a couple of issues, does Tritag deal with the problem of having the sperator in the fieldname in any meaningful way.

For example given a mask of %artist%-%title%
and a filename of Beck-Jack-Ass
could be split as:
artist:Beck
album:Jack-Ass

or
artist:Beck-Jack
album:Ass


thanks Paul (Administrator)
 
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