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Enricus W. Funk

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Hi Paul! I was given an album by a friend of mine as present for my future birthday. I wanted to contribute to MusicBrainz by submitting this CD there (it's a not well-known band, Projekt Caravelle). So i ripped it into iTunes (obviously, no CDDB info), submitted the info to MusicBrainz from the cover of the album, and then ran Jaikoz against those tracks. For sure, there wasn't any Acoustic ID on the MusicIP server, so Jaikoz told that i had to wait 24 hours to retrieve the ID. Is there any way to directly submit the ID to MusicBrainz, so that i can tag all my files from there? Maybe i haven't made the process in order, was just guessing.
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Arghh, how stupid i am! "Update tags from existing MB ID"!! Any way to search MusicBrainz from within Jaikoz?
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Hi Enricus

(I had a quick look on Musicbrainz for the release you added but I couldnt find it, maybe there is a spelling mistake in this post.)

Glad to hear you are contributing to Musicbrainz, it would be really nice if everyone using jaikoz could try and submit at least one release !

I think your undertstanding is roughly right, but lets go through it to clarify.

If you have added the info into Musicbrainz then it can be used by Jaikoz, but in order to get a match using 'Autocorrect tags from Musicbrainz' you either need similar metadata already in the files for title/artist/album ectera or a Puid - that is linked to the tracks within MB.

You havent got either at the moment, but what you can do in Jaikoz 2.6.0 is go to the Musicbrainz Site find the album and then find the release id by clicking on the details link - it wil say something like
MBID: d502cf6b-c84a-445a-a22a-d4aee27b5ee9

Now enter this id into the MB Release Id field for your tracks in Jaikoz.
Now run Update Tags from Musicbrainz it should work out which track in the release goes with which mp3 and update accordingly. (before Jaikoz 2.6.0 you had to enter the MB Id per for each track rather than just the MB release Id for the release the tracks are on)

Going back to the Acoustic Id, if there wasnt one on the MusicIP server for this track you can submit one (as youve already done by just running 'Retrieve Acoustic Ids' and ensuring that Preferences/Musicbrainz/MusicIP/Analyse and submit tracks that do not currently exist in the MusicIP database option enabled). But you dont receive the Acoustic Id immediately, after submitting the id you have to wait until the next day before you can actually retrive the acoustic id. So if you run Retrieve Acoustic Id tomorrow you should get ids for these files.

But this means you have added the Acoustic Id to MusicIP database, BUT they are not known to the Musicbrainz database. This is the purpose of the Remote Correct/Submit Musicbrainz Puid Pairs action. Once a track has a MB Unique Id AND a MusicIP Id you can submit the pairing to create a relationship in the Muscibrainz database.

Now you can lookup these tracks in Musicbrainz by Acoustic Id as well.



thanks Paul (Administrator)
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Before you submitted the message, i already did the MB unique id. You couldn't find the release because it's not in the search DB yet, but you can find it here http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=560626 . Following your advice, i will retrieve the Acoustic IDs tomorrow, and submit them to the MB DB. What i meant is to browse the MB database by query, not by acoustic fingerprint. I was just expecting a window to come up, with a search box, which would add the unique ids for me. Certainly, going to the MB site and entering the IDs manually was a good idea.
Today I learnt that there is a database, separate to MusicBrainz that is called MusicIP. In my opinion, that's useless (better to centralize the stuff in MB) but as i am not the administrator (fortunately for the universal balance), i have to shut up.
Well, thanks for the help, Paul.
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I looked at your submission, looks like you've done a pretty good job !

There isn't the integration you mention (but it is on the list) however if you do use Manual Tag from Musicbrainz and then click on the 'Search' button at the end of the track you were looking for matches for it opens Musicbrainz in a website , and you can use the 'Tagger' button to use a result in Jaikoz.

MusicIP (commercial) and Musicbrainz (open source) are two completely seperate companies, they only started working together last year - that is why there are two seperate databases.

thanks Paul (Administrator)
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Nice!
http://musicbrainz.org/release/76aa8590-53ed-4ba5-bc83-1fc6c207d374.html
I waited those 24hours and now the entry is more complete! I did try the tagger button, but somehow it didn't work or i wasn't doing the right process...
 
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