Jaikoz- Discussion Forum

87boosted wrote:

Nicolas Daum wrote:

Hi

I'm currently using iTunes and I'm tired of its shortcomings. I'm shopping for a new app.
Yet I can understand what Jaikoz claims it does and it seems pretty good but I looking for undocumented stuff:
* is it, er..., a player as well?
* does it manage mp3 only? I use only m4a files.
Regards
Nick

I just purchased the software last night and took a collection of almost 6 GB of a folder ofmps'3 that were very close being in my recycle bin and gave 95% of them full tags and about 70% with album art...I currently use Firefly on a small homebrew laptop media server and the use for this with a large music collection is immeasurable. I have tried similar products and honestly I cannot explain how nice it is to have a program take care of YEARS of mixed music from my collection...at times I have let it grow but missed album art and just got sloppy with tags. One hard drive crash and recovery and alot of messed up tags later I was left with a big mess. Most of my music is decently tagged but this took alot of guesswork and time adding art. The tool is extremely handy as I cannot add artwork within itunes when using FIREFLY, I use this to handle the backbone of my music management. Its a great piece of software and I currently use it to manage close to 90 Gb of music from my collection. AWESOME JOB.

++ this post. I was in basically the same situation. I let Jaikoz loose on a dreaded "Unknown Artist - Unknown Album" type directory with a ton of untagged and essentially worthless files as many were also named things like "01 Track 1a.mp3". I was so impressed, I let Jaikoz run on the rest of the collection to add some artwork, fix track numbers, and correct a ton of mistakes. I had to go back and double check a few things, but Jaikoz saved my sanity and my collection.

paultaylor wrote:

There are three main reasons why a puid is not assigned to a file.
1. The puid does not exist in the MusicIP Database, Jaikoz doesn't currently submit new tracks that dont exist ion the MusicIP database, but this should be an option in the next version.

Thanks for explaining that (or re-explaining as the case may be). I was wondering why certain songs I couldn't get a fingerprint generated. I thought it was all local where generation was concerned.

rpm4fsu wrote:

For the Mac side you might want to look at http://dougscripts.com/itunes/index.php. There are a lot of scripts to work on the iTunes DB and one group works with artwork. Very good documentation on each script.

I use a few and have not had any problems.

Most of the scripts are free but he ask for a donation.

He has one program called dupin which searches an iTune library for duplicates but it has a lot of filters and is way above what comes with iTunes. This one he charges a small fee. The cripled version only allows you to make so many changes in on run. I have used it and it is excellent. I will probably purchase the software.

Check out a program called Tidy Up! since you are a mac user. One of the cool things you can do is set a folder location as Master and then if it finds a copy (a copy defined by you based on song title, artist, album, length, bit rate, etc) anywhere else, it knows which one to delete (or move).

There are tons of "Tasks" and "Strategies" you can define. Plus the beauty of it is that it isn't just for music, it can do pictures or any other arbitary files.

In the end, I've used many different tools in conjunction to help wedd out dupes, fix tags, clean library. So far the most potent is Jaikoz, Tidy Up! and a handful of doug's scripts and strangely enough itunes itself has a place for me as well

Currently on a Mac Pro that has 4 cores. While the processor utilization was higher during the acoustic id generation step, the looking up of tags via musicbrainz doesn't seem to tax it very much. However, it seems in this step, I keep running out of memory (thank god I was able to save after the fingerprinting process). Currently in the Info.plist, I have

<string>-Xms1024m -Xmx2048m</string>

but if I put in

<string>-Xms1024m -Xmx3072m</string>

Jaikoz errors on load. What's the maximum memory Jaikoz can utilize? (6GB RAM in machine currently)

Also, the matching of tags via musicbrainz is slow in comparison to the fingerprinting. What's the bottleneck? You mention in another thread that this matching happens on the server while acoustic fingerprinting was local CPU bound. Are there any strategies for someone with a beefier system and more cores to do to help speed the process? Some secret setting called "Enable teh snappy"?

Hello itools, I know that there are some applescripts that turn embedded artwork into the encrypted itc format that iTunes uses now and also scripts that do the reverse. If this is able to be done in the Mac world, I imagine there is a program or python script to do the same thing in the windows world or linux one.

paultaylor wrote:

Hi, this has already been requested - hope to add it to soon

My apologies. I skimmed the requests and didn't see it and figured it might possibly be already in there.

Cheers

I too would love to select multiple folders

Sometimes the year comes back as "YYYY" and sometimes as "YYYY-MM-DD".
Is there a way to set the format? Month and Day are pointless info for me at the moment.

Personally, I don't really use the year too much, but I can see where it is useful and if I am getting every thing properly tagged anyway, I might as well try to get the year right (and it's less subjective than genre).

As a new user, I'd like to throw my support for a "minimize albums" option. I've noticed several cases where Jaikoz has correctly identified most of an album but there will often be one song identified as part of another album, usually a greatest hits compilation. It's funny to run the report on missing files from albums because it often complains only about the file it just identified as being part of another album!

Anyway, good job on the app and the musicip program in general.

Cheers

I'm a new user (purchased yesterday and already just about have another friend convinced to buy) and already have used Jaikoz on the dreaded Unknown Artist Unknown Album folder and had it churn through 940 songs in relative little time. Good job! I was going to go crazy having to clean up that folder I am sure. Computers are supposed to serve us, and yet I seem to spend too much time attending to their little needs...

Anyway, now that i've got these files with their shiny new tags, I'd really like to see the changes reflected in iTunes.

Without listening to everything or reimporting, what options do I have?