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Just a minor bug:
I just upgraded from 3.6.0 to 4.4.0 (been away for some time). I have a Norwegian version of Windows 7 64 Home Premium, so during installation, Jaikoz automatically asks me if I want to install with the Norwegian language. In my experience, Norwegian versions of not-too-well-known programs are usually poorly translated, and since I know English quite well, I decided to overrule the suggestion and selected English instead.
When I started Jaikoz Audio Tagger after the upgrade, it still started with the Norwegian language. And the translation was as I expected, some words appeared to have been translated with Google Translate, and some words weren't translated at all.
Anyway, I clicked File - Preferences, and noticed that the Language was set to English, even though menus and all were in Norwegian.
It's just a minor bug though, I just selected Norwegian - Save, then back to Preferences and selected English, Save, and voila, everything in English.
...except Preferences - Manipulators - Autocorrector. The lists there were still Norwegian. Fixed by restarting the program. This will probably fix itself if you fix the above issue.

And btw, thx again for a great program.

Thanks PaulTaylor!
A couple of questiions:
* Earlier upgrades of Jaikoz Tagger has caused my preferences to be lost so I have to do them all over again. Has this been fixed in the newest release (or is there a workaround)?

* When matching songs with MusicBrainz does the Year Tag represent the release year of the album or the release year of the song? I would prefer the latter so that when you get matches for "Best of Phil Collins" or so you don't get a Year value of into the 2000s.
Or is it possible to set the MusicBrainz matching preferences to prefer the first album the song appeared on instead of such collections?

Ive looked at the screenshot, youve done it correctly, where do you want to go with this request it seems straightforward enough to me but then I wrote it so I would say that.  

I just think it could be easier, but as the thread says, it's just a minor minor wish.
Perhaps a wizard of some sorts that takes care of some of the most common things to configure, and asks things like:
> How should Jaikoz handle <featuring> instances in tags?
Select: "Ignore", "Change to Ft", "Change to Ft.", "Change to Feat", Change to Feat. (Jaikoz Default)", Change to Featuring"
Select "Apply to Artists Tag", "Apply to Title Tags", "Apply to both Artists and Title tags (Jaikoz Default)"
> How should Jaikoz handle <and> instances in the Artists tag?
Select: "Ignore", "Change to And (Jaikoz Default)", "Change to &", "Change to E", Change to Y"
> How should Jaikoz handle <the> instances in the Artists tag?
Select: "Ignore (Jaikoz Default)", "Remove", "Place in front (The Artistname)", "Place at end (Artistname, The)
> How do you want your filenames to look?
Select: "Artist - Album - Track# - Title (Jaikoz Default)", "Artist Ft. Artist2 - Title (Songversion) (Punar Default)", "Artist - Title (feat Artist)(Songversion) (Musicbrainz Default)"

You can do this by using Menu/Settings/Table Settings, the order and visibility of columns.... 


I think it would be better addressing this issue to MusicBrainz and find out why they do it this way, they may be only doing this in some cases, because it would be difficult for Jaikoz to parse this accurately  

I just read some of the info they have on their site. Apparently this is an issue they have discussed heatedly for some time. It seems they decided to put the featured artist in the songtitle-tag because putting it in the artist tag would make the album entry in the database falsely become a "various artists" entry in many cases. (However they were able to program the database to accept two artists in the Artist tag if they were linked with the And-word instead of the Feat-word without making trouble for the Album entry
Anyway the default way for Musicbrainz to present featured artists is like this:
Artisttag: Artist
Titletag: Title (Feat. Guestartist)

As far as I can see, all my tags that were modified by MusicBrainz with featured artists ended up in this way.

Anyway, I payed only 10 bucks for this program so I don't expect it to do almost everything.

No wait, I didn't expect it to do almost everything, I was wrong

What about if you manually edit the field what happens to the coloring then, the coloring indicates the status of a field without reference to how it got that way. So the whitespace coloring shows there is whitespace without reference to the correcter, the change coloring indicates the field is different in some way to its value on disk ....  

Umm after checking your table, I see you're calling my blue purple and my purple pink. So that may cause some confusion.
To be clearer I have attached an example of what I mean.

Oh, one more thing...

After MusicBrainz has run through my files I find that it has tagged files like this:
Artist Tag: Jennifer Lopez
Title Tag: All I Have (feat. LL Cool J)

This song like many others features a guest artist, in this case LL Cool J. For some reason, I have no idea why, MusicBrainz puts these featured artists in the Title Tag.
Would it be possible to do a cleanup after MusicBrainz so that the featured artists are moved to the Artist Tag, like this:
Artist Tag: Jennifer Lopez feat. LL Cool J
Title Tag: All I Have

Love this program
It is on the list to provide some kind of manual tag from filename mapping for filenames that Jaikoz can't decipher automtically, where do you want the version info to go ?  

Perhaps those who work with the mp3 tag standardisation (whoever that is) could make a specific tag field for this but until then I like the version info just to be kept with the songtitle:
Filename = Safri Duo - Trance Energy (Airscape Remix)
Artist Tag = Safri Duo
Title Tag = Trance Energy (Airscape Remix)

I dont quite understand , cant you just add mappings to the word replacer of the form feat -> featuring, Ft->featuring ...  

I did, see attached image, but I think it was a bit difficult. At the beginning I didn't know where to write what so I had to try and see.

Well, I would want to use a different colour as it means a different thing, I think you are asking for any characters within the field that have been changed to be marked, or do you only want this for capitalization, this request needs a bit more thinking about. I don't think it should be on my default as it could make the display too confusing/messy but it might be a useful optional feature.  

I think it should be the same color. It means the local analyzer has found a character that is not approved. So purple can be used both for capitalization and spaces. I think purple can be used to mark all changes that the local analyzer wants to do to single characters.

I found a couple of other issues:
  • When I click the "Open new Folder"-button, Jaikoz will open a new folder without saving changes to the currently opened files.
  • Could you make Jaikoz save positioning and sizing of tag columns
  • *Yes I could add Jaikoz.bat but Im suprised Jaikoz.exe does not work for you, it works for me. Does it work if you run it directly from the installtion folder ?  

    When I start the .exe-file (both from the shortcut or directly from C:\JThink\Jaikoz) I get the attached image of the error message.

    When I click Details in the error box I get the following text:
    java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/jthink/jaikoz/Start (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
     	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
     	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
     	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
     	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     	at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)
     	at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
     	at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
     	at com.zerog.lax.LAX.launch(DashoA8113)
     	at com.zerog.lax.LAX.main(DashoA8113)
    Great program!! Finally a tagging program that does almost everything I want it to do.

    Just a few minor things I can think of:

    Windows Installation
    * It would be nice if the application installed as default to the %programfiles% folder
    * On the startmenu there could be to shortcuts, one to the Jaikoz.exe file and one to the Jaikoz.bat file (the Jaikoz.exe file didn't work for me so I almost uninstalled the program when I for some reason got the idea to look in it's program folder where I luckily found the bat-file).
    * The startmenu folder could be named Jaikoz Mp3-Tagger instead of just Jaikoz. When I am done this round tagging all my files I probably won't do this again until next year or so, and I'll be looking through my startmenu for an Mp3-tagger, and I won't find any because I don't remember the name.
    * When starting the program, the view-panel doesn't come up as default. And I think it should be called "Original tag view panel" or something so I didn't need to read the manual to see what it was.

    Capitalize first character after "Mc" in artistnames, eg:
    McFadden, McNeal, etc
    Capitalize first character after "'" (that's a ') it it's in the beginning of a word, eg:
    D'Sound, N'Sync, 'Til Tuesday (also works with French: J'Ai, L'Erreur, D'Amour etc)
    Continue not to capitalize the character after a "'" if it's not in the beginning, eg:
    Winifred's, I'm, Don't, Destiny's, We've, You'll
    Capitalize after "'n'":
    Thugs'n'Harmony, Hit'n'Hide, Rob'n'Raz

    Filename => Tags
    All my filenames are of this format:
    Artist - Songtitle (Version)
    Safri Duo - Trance Energy (Airscape Remix)
    Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Armin Van Buuren Remix
    I listen to quite a few songs that haven't been released on any albums so albumtitle and songnumber are irrelevant to many of my songs so I want this information only in tags.
    Many of my songs also appear in different remixed versions (this is most common among trance, techno, house music). I therefore also need the version info in the filename to separate the different songs of the same songtitle from the same artist.
    Many people seem to have the same idea because this way of naming files appears to be quite common.
    The problem is that with my format it seems Jaikoz thinks songnames are album names and therefore incorrectly tags the albumtitle field of my mp3's.

    Word Replacing for artists:
    It would be nice with a little simplification of this feature.
    Perhaps set up so that you can have multiple words replaced to single other words. That way you can easily replace all instances of "ft", "ft.", "feat", "feat.", "featuring" to "Ft" or "Feat" and all instances of "&", "Y", "E", "And" to "&".
    I tried to set up the above with the current version (1.10) and it wasn't easy

    Local Tagging:
    When autotagging locally unnecessary spaces are marked as purple both in the view panel and the Edit panel. But they aren't removed. I think the spaces should be marked as purple in the view panel, and removed and the whole cell marked in blue in the edit panel.
    It would also be nice if all characters that have been capitalized or decapitalized are also marked in purple in the view panel. It would make it easier to see what has been changed.

    These are just a few minor things I have noticed. Very very minor. Your program is still the best autotagger in existence by far of any I have tried (I have tried lots of tagging applications and a few supposedly autotagging applications but Jaikoz is the only one that works!)
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